SxS Sells
Having discussed the practical pump and soft-shooting autoloader, it’s time to scale the social ladder and chat about the side-by-side. The side-by-side has an aura that the others lack. Shooting driven birds at Lord Twiddlebotham’s manor in Upper Ascot, Frothing-on-Slosh, Yorkshire, is hardly the province of common “magazine” guns. The over/under, although acceptable today, is not the stuff of Riponesque legends. In the glory days the side-by-side ruled. When you think of a British “best,” it’s the side-by-side that comes to mind, not the equally well built O/Us from the same companies.
Looks have a lot to do with it. Nothing is sleeker than a long-barreled double with an English stock, splinter forend and swamped rib nestling down between the barrels. I’ve always found the smaller curved receivers of the Dickson and McKay Brown round-actions to be the epitome of pinup shotguns, but others might prefer the traditional sidelock look of Purdey or H&H.
I won’t argue the point that adding a pistol grip, heavy beavertail forend or raised vented rib may add some real or perceived practicality to the side-by-side. The American market certainly leaned that way with many of the Parkers, Model 21s, Foxes and Elsies. Of course all side-by-side guns aren’t gorgeous. I’ve seen some Iron Curtain examples more suited to peasant tilling than pheasant killing.
Looks aside, what’s the point of the side-by-side? Why do people like to shoot them? Are they really any better at anything? Is there a concrete advantage to them?
We may all have a different take on this, but I’ve always felt that my side-by-side guns excelled at quick short-range shooting, especially in heavy cover. Translation: grouse and woodcock.
There’s absolutely no reason why a side-by-side should have lighter barrels than an O/U, but the ones I pick always seem to. That makes them fast on the short stuff but a little less steady on longer shots. The barrels of the side-by-side sit much lower in the forehand for a very natural quick point. The comparatively broad side-by-side barrels make it a little easier for me to pick out my barrels against heavy, dark, pine backgrounds. Naturally one doesn’t aim at grouse, but it is helpful to see the barrel blur in your peripheral vision. On the downside, the same barrel width makes it more difficult for me to be precise on long shots, where I tend to aim a little more than I should.
Double or single trigger on the side-by-side is always an interesting choice. On a 12-gauge, I usually want two triggers in case I need to go to the rear one first in the more open country for which a 12 is suited. But if the gun is a very light sub-gauge, I’ll opt for a single trigger because my trigger-switching technique is a little klutzy and I sometimes jiggle a light gun when groping for the second trigger. That’s why I set up my 5-pound 10-ounce RBL 28-gauge quail gun with a single trigger and light 3.5-pound pulls. We’ll see if that impresses Mr. Bob come January at Quail Country.
How does the side-by-side compare to the other three actions for shooting? Generally side-by-side guns are a rarity in the clay games because most shooters feel that the O/Us and autoloaders are better. Twenty years ago I set up a handicap system for the Connecticut Travelers Sporting Clays Association. The goal was to encourage people to enjoy competing with their hunting guns. We gave pumps and side-by-side guns a five-target head start in a 100-bird race, and that has worked out to be pretty fair over the years. Then again, if you have ever been to the Vintage Cup and seen Chuck DeVinne with his Model 21 or Andy Duffy with his Elsie, you’d think that I should have given the side-by-side a five-bird penalty, not advantage. It’s an Indian, not an arrow, thing.
How do you feel about the side-by-side? Why do you shoot them or why don’t you? And don’t tell me that you needed something to go with your new breeks, knee socks and flashes. There is more to the side-by-side than that.
Next time I’ll talk about the O/U.
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Side by sides
Yes, I had purchased Tweed Breeks & Shooting Vest in Scotland and also from Orvis with socks and flashes about two years ago
and this year it was time to learn to shoot and hunt pheasants to complete the adventure.
So after reading your magazine and seeing the beautiful guns for sale, I knew only a SXS wirh a English stock and double triggers looked right. I'm thrilled to have a #2 AYA side by side 28 gage which I think is the most gorgeous shot gun for the money. After visiting James Purdy & Son in London this past August, I checked out a USED Purdy which was for sale at $100,000! It looked just my Cabella AYA.
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P HUNTER
Side by sides
I am so socially insecure and impressional I am willing to spend my last dollar on an outdated status symbol with a primitive trigger system if it will open the doors to hobnobbing with my social betters. Please suggest the side by side most likely to aid me in accomplishing this. From reading you I have concluded that it must be English in origin, preferably old, and probably be in need of a master gunsmith's services.
Hopeful
S X S
They just look good, feel good, carry good, and every other gun type; just does not seem anywhere near as interesting.
troop
SxS
I shoot my side by side holding the barrels with my pointing hand rather then the fore-end. I like the feel/balance of the 2 side by side barrels in my hand. Pointing seems to feel more natural and smoother and better controlled. For instinctive fast field shots I am better with my Sauer 12 sxs then Beretta o/u 12 or Ceasar Guerini 28. Over 35 yards the advantage goes to my Beretta o/u or Benelli Cordoba.
SxS sells
Repliers above say that the SxS is for carrying, but they dont say why. Here is why I like to carry only SxSs all day:
All other shotgun designs, the mass of the action and barrels is "top heavy" or "tall". When one carries an O/U or repeater all day, the operator will be constantly "micro-manipulating" the gun to keep it more vertically oriented and therefore more ready to shoot. I think this is mostly an unconscious act, I know I do it. I believe this is arm fatiguing particularly in the wrists, forearms and hands.
The unique design of the SxS compared to all others is that the mass of the barrels and action is "flat" and not "tall" therefore the SxS sits naturally flat in the hands for all day carry, requiring much less micro-manipulation to keep it ready.
I am sure there is "physics" type terminology that better describes the different orienations of action and barrels that I have attempted to describe above. D. Amos who posts on the SS bboard, probably knows the right descriptions. I welcome comment and argument as to my above opinion.
Craig H
S X S
Bruce, I'm a grouse /woodcock hunter and I find that's where the gun really shines. The guns tend to handle well and point naturally. I even think doubles can be great on long crossing targets provided they aren't too light. Where I find them at a disadvantage is longer out going type clay targets.
Watson Buck
sxs sells
sxs guns are for carrying ,not shooting. Major Italian innovators have abandoned the sxs believing that the sxs as a design peaked in the 19th century. as ennio matterelli said it is the over/under that wins!
SxS sells
Clay-pigeon shooting is ennio matterelli's bag, what the heck does that mean to me and MOST others? I use a shotgun for what they were invented for, hunting. 6.5 lbs. AYA #2 round action 16 ga SxS, a beauty that kills everything and you can carry it all day. I gave up fighting my 8 pound O/U. Lets see who wins in the field.
Sure it is for carrying
Sure it is for carrying Shooting ptarmigans is mostly guncarrying.
Side by side barrel selection
I have a MC 111 russian “purdey”. The gun has a single trigger. Moving the safety forward fires the right barrel and moving the safety backwards fires the left barrel. An excellent setup in my experience.
I have a MC 111 russian
I have a MC 111 russian “purdey”. The gun has a single trigger. Moving the safety forward and you can fire the right barrel moving the safety backwards and you can fire the left barrel. An excellent setup in my experience.
( Sorry for my english )
MC 111 pictures
May I ask you for some pictures of 111.
romanalla@aol.com
Thank you
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The real thrill : thumb trigger or Russian Roulette by eastern craftsmanship
Thumb trigger
your comment and title presentation made made me double up till tears ran over my face.
Thanks I needed this. I am at the moment laid up with abroken leg. Need some distraction.